Posts Tagged ‘Shenzhen’

Fred Schroeder backs out of pro fight

In Uncategorized on April 10, 2015 at 12:38 am

Fred and I were offered a chance by Kru Chan Reach of AFighter to have a televised professional MMA fight together in Cambodia. Fred asked me a million questions about the details of the rules and weigh-in. On April 05, Fred wrote: “I’m in USA right now and will be off the grid for a few weeks. This does look like a good opportunity. How many people in the audience you expecting?” From his many questions, it nearly sounded like he was interested in fighting. Then I didn’t hear from him for several days. So, I asked him if he was in or out. His response was “Obviously I cannot urinate on you in the ring. Will the press know your wearing my shit stained panties?”

Open Letter from Carmine Graceffo to Fred Schroeder a pilot in Shenzhen, China

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On Apr 9, 2015, I sent Fred an email with the Subject: Re: Yes or no about the fight? Fred’s response was: Sorry man June is no good. I have a Greenpeace convention to goto.

And that’s it. Fred Fredric Schroeder, the pilot and coward of Shenzhen, China, backed out of the fight again. Every time he pulls out or refuses to fight, I remember his chilling words from the past “I am a man of action” and “I’m a real fighter, you’re not.” And my favorites, “I’ll fight you when I’m ready.”

Even during this back and forth discussion of these fight arrangements he told me again how he was raping my dead mother. How does this person even believe he is a man?

Open Letter from Carmine Graceffo to Fred Schroeder a pilot in Shenzhen, China

In Uncategorized on March 22, 2015 at 10:44 am


Carmine Graceffo

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Mr. Schroeder,

My name is Carmine Graceffo, Patriarca della fondazione della famiglia Graceffo in America. I am the zio of Antonio Graceffo and the older brother of late morta Adrianna Graceffo.

You disonorato adianna in messages, for a periodo of two years. Antonio showed your messages to our family circolo and we are very furioso. The words you write are orribili. Vili, puramente cattive. Why do you write such infamia about the dead woman?

Our family is very traditionale. We believe that ——when you speak ill of the dead,— you disturb their sleep. Why do you want to do this to my sorella? My sister, Adrianna was una santa. She died very young by a terrible cancer. She sofferto much pain. She ha urlato ——–scream and cried till the morfina— didn’t help anymore. I saw your message saying that you “tea-bagged her to shut her up.”

Mio nipote Antonio had to explain tea-bag to me. —–You are pazzo, a very disturbed man. No one the family circolo can believe a man can think so much cativo evil. I understand you agreed to fight my nipote Antonio 24 times, — but you are a cordardo! —afraid–and you ran away.

In Italia, we say a man is two things, —- his word —- and his balls. But you have broken both. Rompi coglioni. You are senza palle! No balls! A man with no balls is no man. Is not a man. I wish I can fight you myself, but I am nearly 80 years old. I know you like to fight a dead woman. Maybe you can also fight an old man.

Antonio showed us the photo you made of my sister. You added a grosso pene, big penis, on the picture of my dead sister. ANIMALE! You are pazzo. Villano. You are not a man.

Perfavore, ti prego—-please fight my nipote Antonio! ——For the honor of his dead mamma.


Carmine Graceffo
Patriarca della fondazione della famiglia Graceffo

Fred Schroeder, please fight me.

In Uncategorized on March 17, 2015 at 3:18 pm

fred dummy
Pilot Fred Schroeder, the coward of Shenzhen has agreed to fight Antonio Graceffo 24 times and backed out each time (as of March 17, 2015) instead of fight me, he sends me email and text messaging claiming he can beat me easily and telling me he is raping my mother who died when I was a baby.

Warning horrible foul language in this video.
Watch: Fred Shcroeder Please Fight me on Youtube

Second open letter from Carmine Graceffo to Fredric Shcroeder, pilot in Shenzhen

In Uncategorized on March 8, 2015 at 10:56 am

Carmine Graceffo
Graceffo Foundation in America
65 Via Vespuci
Brooklyn, NY 11797

Mr. Schroeder,

Since we last chatted, I was disappointed, but not surprised, when my nephew, Antonio, informed me that you agreed to fight him on March 4, 2015 in Shanghai, but did not show up. This is, I am given to understand, the 23rd time you have agreed to fight and backed out. As per our last conversation, I beg you to allow my nephew to fight you, as you promised, to avenge the insults you made to the soul of his mother, Adrianna Graceffo. What sort of man calls someone, repeatedly on the phone, claiming to be raping his mother both pre and postmortem? You even claimed to have raped the eye-sockets of her skull.

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It is not for me to judge how sick and twisted you are. I only ask, once again, please, give my nephew, Antonio, his fight. You have claimed on countless occasions (several thousand, over a period of nearly two years) that you are not intimidated by him and could beat him easily. If this is the case, then you have nothing to lose. But win or lose, Antonio must be given the opportunity to allow his mother to rest in peace. I saw one of your messages where my nephew asked you to allow his mother to rest in peace and your response was “She’s already in pieces LOL.” Funny to you, perhaps, but now give him his fight.

In your previous message, you claimed that you meant no insult to my sister, Adrianna. You claimed that my nephew “made” you write those comments. For an adult man with a responsible job you seem to take very little personal responsibility for your own actions. My nephew may be no angel. And you may hate him. But he didn’t “MAKE” you do anything. All of your actions were your own choices.

“I do apologize to YOU regarding your sister. Ofcourse i never meant ANY of it.” Of course? Why the of course? Do you mean that you so frequently say things which have nothing behind them we should just make that assumption each time you speak?

Did you “never mean any of it” When you said:
“Yes I know her grave as I dug her up and skullfucked her already”
“Not only does she have a right pussy but a tight eye socket too!”
Friday 10:24am

What sort of monster are you? In the hopes of meeting all of your requirements for this fight, my nephew tells me he complied with your demand that he give you the location of Adrianna’s grave. You told him that after the fight you would “drop a deuce on mommy’s grave.” I didn’t even know what that means. When he explained it to me, I cursed the forty years that have passed since I was of fighting age. In another message you said you would dig up Adrianna’s corps and call “50 niggas” to rape her. You are both a racist and an animal. But the location of the grave was given to you, as you requested. And still you didn’t fight.

Next, you asked my nephew for a photo of Adrianna which you said you wanted to “jer off to” and to make and wear as a T-shirt “commemorating the men who gang raped and killed her.” He gave you the photo, but rather than fighting, you attached a picture of a penis to it and sent it back with a caption which read, “I didn’t know your mother’s cock was so big.”

Most recently, you said you would fight my nephew on March 4, 2015 if he agreed to wear your soiled underwear. You are a disgusting pig. But you are not excused. So, my nephew agreed. And you didn’t show up.

You have been paid, Mr. Fredric Schroder. Everything you have asked for has been given you. Now, it is time for you to earn your fun. Please stop the games and fight my nephew so that his mother’s soul may rest.

All of your requirements have been met, Mr. Schroder. You have accepted payment, but failed to deliver the goods, the goods being the fight. And now you claim the hold up is something as trivial as whether the fight is held in doors or out doors. He gave you his dead mother what more do you want? You are ghoul. In nearly 80 years of life I have never heard of a man making such disgusting demands or even using this level of language… A man would not.

You said “Since he basically refused to come here unless we fought in a gym i stopped responding to him. “ This makes very little sense to me. You allowed this to go on for a period of two years simply because my nephew had the good sense to demand a fight which would not be a crime in the streets? Something so small prevented you from standing up for your honor? You are now being ridiculed, and rightly, for being the coward who, I understand, has agreed and backed out of this fight 23 times, and all because you fear the inside of a gymnasium?

I think it is time you overcome your fear of the gymnasium. I will instruct my nephew to fly to your city. But you must arrange for the fight in doors. This seems so simply resolved.

Can I have your word, as a man, that you will do this? Please let this fight happen and this whole situation finally end.

Please give my nephew his fight in doors. He will fly to you city. If he fails to do so, you can contact me and I will ensure that he does it. As head of the family, he will listen to me. If you need to remind yourself of why this fight is important, read your own words below.


You said the following things and possibly more.
From Fred Scchroeder: 03/16 “Please send me a pic of your mom, I want to honor the situation by wearing a tshirt with her pic in remembrance of her brutal gangrape and DBC. Death By C–k”
“I am your G— kneel before me and open your mouth.” He also sent me text which read “F—you, F—your mother, and F—your Christian beliefs.”
“F—your mother” and that he is masturbating with her photo or that he applauded the men who gang raped her… “
4/01/14 Antonio, fuck you, and fuck your mother too.” This was one of his kinder messages “SUCK MY BIG FAT COCK JUST LIKE YOUR MOM USED TO DO!”
.fredschroeder 3/22/14 Keep this message at the top of your inbox
To: BrooklynMonk Graceffo
your an old, fat, ugly looser who couldn’t get laid in a woman’s prison… Although your mom did, but then again….

2/28/14 Keep this message at the top of your inbox
To: BrooklynMonk Graceffo
Let me know where you want your grave dug. I’ll even throw in a copy of the bible from the Latter Day Saints. Your Mormon right?
03/14 So really, how many priest did you blow in Sunday school?
03/14 I’m busy jacking off to her pic now. Call ya later
And I’m sorry your mother was gangraped by a bunch of niggers. But ya known Sicilians are nothing more than niggas turned inside out. So who is your daddy anyway?

Did they ever catch the suspects (all your daddys) that did this terrible (although quite impressive) thing to yor mother?
03/16 Please send me a pic of your mom, I want to honor the situation by wearing a tshirt with her pic in remembrance of her brutal gangrape and DBC. Death By Cock
fredschroeder 3/21/14
What a pathetic piece of shit loser you are. I wouldn’t believe in god if I were you as I don’t think he lets faggots into heaven
03/22 Zero, because your an old, fat, ugly looser who couldn’t get laid in a woman’s prison… Although your mom did, but then again….
03 23 From: fred
Subject: RE: About the kick
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:01:31 -0400
You really like to talk, and never stfu. Like mother like son, guess that’s why they teabagged your whore mom during her birth to you.

On a daily basis how many men cum in your mouth? Your mom was good at this, back In the day the boys used to pass her around like a nerf football.

fredschroeder 3/28/14 Keep this message at the top of your inbox
To: BrooklynMonk Graceffo
You are such a jealous asshole. I told ya to come to sz, otherwise go suck on your training partners balls and stop sweating mine you stupid guinea wop fuck
> Subject: Hey fuckface
> From: fredschroeder
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 02:30:02 +0800
> To:
> So are you and fagboy tan gonna both suck my cock simultaneously or one at a time.
> Hey send me that pic of your mom again. I wanna send you a nice one back after I receive it. Ok I’m gonna go jerkoff dreaming of your mom

fredschroeder 4/01/14 Keep this message at the top of your inbox
Antonio, fuck you, and fuck your mother too. I told you to come to Shenzhen to fight me jackass.

fredschroeder 1:38 AM Keep this message at the top of your inbox
To: BrooklynMonk Graceffo
I’m busy. Your mother is sucking my cock and about to release the evil into her mouth. Truly yours…

fredschroeder 4:56 AM Keep this message at the top of your inbox
To: BrooklynMonk Graceffo
Man your mom is a rock star in bed! Holy shit 3 hours non stop bangin with my balls slapping dat ass!!!
Did you know that I would have been your father had the dog not beat up the stairs?
(17:16 Fred: first you must come and suck my dick. I want you to taste the seed that gave you life. Your mother would be so proud you sick and twisted fuck.)

Say hi to your mom in hell

Don’t contact me it’s a waste of one cause your a big damn pussy. Yes I know her grave as I dug her up and skullfucked her already

Not only does she have a right pussy but a tight eye socket too!
Friday 10:24am

Guess your moms been busy huh?

man i had no idea her cock was THAT BIG

Sent from my iPhone
fredschroeder 1:48 AM
To: BrooklynMonk Graceffo
I would enjoy soccer kicking you in the mouth.
Btw god doesn’t exist. The only god is in my pants and I’m giving your mom confession right now. Open up bitch!

Sent from my iPhonefredschroeder 1:38 AM
To: BrooklynMonk Graceffo
I’m busy. Your mother is sucking my cock and about to release the evil into her mouth. Truly yours…
12 May, I asked Fred when he thought he would be ready to fight me. He responded by text message, “After I fuck your mother.”

February 3, 2015
18:32 Fred: You really are a queer
18:45 Fred: every day its nice to kow that your mother is getting skullfucked by satans minions.

Fred messages 2015/2/3
SMS from Cambodia
Back in October, Fred lied to me and said he was leaving China. I called his China phone, but he had blocked my number. So, I called him from Cambodia on February 2, 2015 and he answered. I asked him why he backed out of a fight with me 22 times and he said, “Not this again. Go F—your mother.” Next,

Open Letter from Carmine Graceffo to Fred Schroeder a pilot in Shenzhen, China

In Uncategorized on March 3, 2015 at 5:14 am

Carmine Graceffo
Graceffo Foundation in America

RE: “Antonia’s mother is getting f–ked by many people in hell right now.” Fred Schroeder February 08, 2015, 21:54

Mr. Schroeder,

My name is Carmine Graceffo, Patriarch of the Graceffo Family Foundation in America. I am the uncle of Antonio Graceffo and the older brother of the late Adrianna Graceffo who you besmirched in a series of emails and messages, spanning a period of nearly two years.

Antonio made your words known to our family circle and we are more than incensed.

“There is no God, Antonio, it’s me. I am giving your mother communion. I’m emptying the evil into her mouth right now.” Fred Schroeder

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“Satan and his black angels are as raping your mother in Hell as we speak.” Fred Schroeder

“Send me your mother’s picture. I want to make a T-shirt of it to commemorate the men who gang raped and killed her.” Fred Schroeder

The words you have written are beyond horrible. Vile, pure evil don’t even begin to describe the horror of someone writing such infamnia about the dead. Our family is in many ways very traditional. We believe that when you speak ill of the dead, you disturb their slumber.

Why would you want to do this to my sister? My sister, Adrianna was a saint. She was taken very young by a horrible and painful cancer. She screamed and cried until the morphine no longer worker. I saw one of your messages saying that you “tea bagged her to shut her up.” My nephew had to explain that to me. You are a very disturbed man, Mr. Schroeder. None of us in the family circle are able to believe that someone would think such things, much less, say them.

I understand you have reneged on your promise to fight my nephew some 23 times. I wish could challenge you myself, but as I am nearly eighty years old, I cannot. Seeing that you enjoy insulting a dead woman, I imagine you would be willing to fight an eighty year old man. Antonio showed us the photo that you made of my sister to which you have added an image of a large, male member. Animale! Are you insane? Why would any human being do this?

I don’t know you, and I actually hope never to see a man such as yourself or even remember that such people walk this Earth, and yet I am going to make two requests: The first, that you allow my nephew his day of revenge. Please fight him for the sake of the soul and honor of his mother. The family circle have met, read your messages, and agreed to fund Antonio’s ticket to any destination on the planet Earth to fight you for the honor of Adrianna. As this is an honor fight, we agree to your terms of no rules and no referee. The only request we make is that the fight be held in doors, rather than outdoors, as you are both guests in a foreign country, living at the mercy of your visas. Running afoul of the immigration authorities would do neither of you any good. So, please consent to fight my nephew in doors.

In the shameful mountain of correspondence you sent to my nephew you, at various times, claimed to be a member of a gym, looking for a gym, training full time, not training at all, starting training, having back surgery and unable to train, busy with work and unable to train, buy with work and unable to fight, training at a fictitious gym which could not be verified by a search, training and ready to fight, and yet you backed out each time you agreed to fight. You claimed to have several coaches, no coaches, better coaches than my nephew, coaches with no names, coaches with names that made no sense, such as Fred Snowden and Al Sharpton … Clearly most, or all of these statements must be lies, as they are contradictory. If you actually are a member of a fighting gymnasium or club of some kind, please schedule the fight there, and I will ensure that my nephew arrives on time. If you do not have a gym or other suitable location, then allow my nephew to arrange the fight in his city. I understand he is affiliated with a number of training facilities there as both a trainer and a trainee. But either way, please let us resolve this issue as soon as possible and let lie in the past.

In addition to finally going through with this fight and putting an end to this nonsense, next, please respond to this email with an explanation of why you thought you were justified to say such things about Adrianna Graceffo.

Awaiting your reply,

Carmine Graceffo
Patriarch of the Graceffo Family Foundation

Open letter to Fred Schroeder a Pilot in Shenzhen

In Uncategorized on February 11, 2015 at 3:23 am

Fred smack talk 8


I know you haven’t done much fighting, so you may not understand the culture of the martial life. Therefore, I wanted to share this with you, in the hopes that you would overcome your fear and simply fight me, accept the loss and learn from it. Remember you have gained nothing, learned nothing, and proven nothing by dragging this thing on for two years. Your status of course has dramatically diminished by your repeated failures to either accept a fight when offered or accepting but not turning up.

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In 1949, when Masahiko Kimura went to Brazil he hadn’t been defeated since his teens. In fact, he had a 13 year undefeated streak. He won the All Japan judo competition a record 9 times. Helio Gracie extended a challenge to Kimura and in that famous fight, Kimura broke Helio’s arm. But Helio didn’t lose face. In fact, the courage he showed in fighting Kimura elevated him to the status of legend and insured the continued success and development of Gracie jujitsu.

Fred, you have much more to gain by actually fighting me than by agreeing to fight and not showing up or playing games, stalling the arrangements of date time and place or making unreasonable demands such as I ride in your car or we fight at the airport, or that you want me to come to your hotel room for sex first, or that we fight on the street in a crowded tourist district in Shanghai, or any of the other preposterous demands you have made. Just fight me. Just agree, show up, and fight, and you will become more than you are now. Remember a man is two things, his word and his balls. You have broken your word repeatedly and you have demonstrated a complete lack of balls again, and again.

Here is more about the famous fight and how both Helio and Carlos Gracie viewed it.

Many years later Gracie told an interviewer that he never expected to win: “I thought that nobody in the world could defeat Kimura.” He said that his brother Carlos thought he would get seriously injured but that his “fear was surpassed by desire to know what…Kimura would do in a fight.” Carlos thought Kimura might open the door to an unknown world for me.”

This is why even the MMA students in Vietnam want to spar with me. They know they will lose, but they know they will learn. And for me, I train in a sports university where everyone is a black belt and everyone competes at the international level. And I spar, and I get beat, and I learn and grow. And no one thinks the less of me for losing those matches, the same as I think no less of my students for losing to me. I told you I fought san da in November of last year and lost. But my students, training partners, teachers, and even my opponent stood by me. We talked about what I did wrong, what I could have done better, and I have grown from the experience. Not to mention the fact that at nearly 50 years old, every fight I take seems like a bonus win or lose.

Two years is a long time to drag this out Fred. If you had started training when this thing started, you could be a blue belt already. But no matter, let this fight be the first step in your development as both a man and a martial artist. Please agree to fight me in a reasonable venue, preferably in a ring or a cage, but an open practice room is fine too. I am willing to fight in Shenzhe, and have been since the beginning, but the fight has to be in a real venue. Obviously, I think Shanghai makes the most sense because we have the venues. We have the cage, ring, or practice room. We could even fight in a public fight or a professional fight that goes on both of our records if you so chose. If we fight in Shanghai, I have my two cameramen, one for video and one for photos. You are a pilot and probably get free flights to Shanghai. And you have been here several times when you were supposed to fight me but backed out. Whether you chose Shenzhen or Shanghai, make it a real fight, not just more insults, lies and nonsense on your part. We will film it, and it will live on Youtube where you can refer back to it for the rest of your fight career. And the next time you brag about being a fighter and someone calls you a liar, you can point to that video as proof.

Antonio Graceffo

Fred Schroeder, the Coward of Shenzhen, hiding in China

In Uncategorized on February 1, 2015 at 1:15 pm

Fred smack talk new

“I hope Satan and his black angels are raping your mother in the a— as we speak” Fred Schroeder told me this. Back in October, Fred Schroeder claimed he was in Shanghai and agreed to fight me about three times during the course of a weekend, but obviously didn’t show up for any of the fights. After that, he told me he was leaving China to begin work in Khartoum. While the story sounded plausible, I wondered if it were a ruse to avoid fighting me. I called him several times, but the call didn’t connect.

Watch it on youtube

So, I thought he had either left, or blocked my phone. Today, I called his China phone from Cambodia, and he answered. So, apparently, he is still in China, and lied, once again, to avoid fighting me. I asked him why he backed out of the fight with me 22 times and his reply was “Go F— your mother.” Now that I know he is in Shenzhen, I am rerouting my return flight to China, so I can fly through Shenzhen, meet him and fight him. Please keep in mind, that one of many things he said about my dead mother was that he once told me send him a picture of my mother so he could “Make a T-shirt to commemorate the men who gang raped and killed her.” In additional to what he said about my mother, he made numerous anti-Christian comments, such as “There is no God, Antonio. It’s me. I am giving your mother communion. I am emptying the evil into her mouth right now.” Please don’t tell me to drop it. This can never end till he fights me or till I am dead.

One last attempt to arrange a fight with Fred the coward pilot of Shenzhen

In Uncategorized on September 1, 2014 at 11:39 am

Fred fight prince


As of March 7, 2015, Fred Schroeder, of New Jersey, USA, a pilot for an airlines in Shenzhen, China, has agreed to fight Antonio Graceffo and then backed out 23 times.

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Back in June of 2014, Fred agreed to fight me on June 13 in Shenzhen. Less than 4 minutes later he sent me a text, backing out. Twenty minutes later he sent me a text saying “I will kick your ass in June.” I texted him, asking if the June fight was back on, but got no answer. Over the next several days, I called and texted repeatedly to find out if the June fight was back on, but he never answered.


August, 30, 2014: I called Fred and asked if he could fight me in September. He said that he had been at my university two weeks earlier, “Sorry I didn’t see you. I would have liked to have smashed your face.” I asked him why he didn’t call me when he was here. He claimed he didn’t have my phone number. I pointed out that we had spoken by phone and SMS thousands of times, so he definitely had my number. But his reply was, “That was a long time ago.” So, what I read into that is that when we left off in June, he had NO intention of contacting me or fighting.


Over the years he has singled out various friends of mine, who are professional fighters, saying they were gay and that he could beat them in a fight. One such friend is AJ Riccardi, who just took fourth in US national san da championship. Another is Albert Tan, a heavyweight international kyokushin fighter. I told Fred I had been in Malaysia training with Albert and he was bigger and stronger than before and would destroy Fred.


I know I should just let this go, but Fred is so despicable, I just want to destroy him. So, I tried one final time to get him to fight me. Just by communicating with this guy, I am letting evil into my eyes and ears.

August, 30, 17:27

17:28 Fred: Good to hear from you fucktard. And you enjoyed sucking off Albert Tan. When you come to Shenzhen tell me. (Albert Tan is a friend of mine who fights in international Kyokushin competitions. I don’t know why Fred singled him out, of all of my friends and keeps calling Albert gay and saying he wants to fight Albert. I warned Fred on NUMEROUS occasions that, because I am a 90% grappler, if he fights me he will probably lose, but not get hurt. But Tan is a mean striker with a body conditioned from years of Kyokushin, the most brutal martial art on the planet. If he fights Tan there is a very high probability he would get permanently injured and at the very least, he wouldn’t be able to walk for a month. Tan is my weight or more. Fred is a vegetarian and at least 10 kgs smaller than either of us. Tan specializes in kicking his opponent’s thighs with his shin bones. If Fred punches or kicks Tan to the body, Fred will get injured.)

BTW I believe if I see you I will fight you right away, I wont even wait until we make it to the gym.

17:28 Antonio: sounds perfect. can you give me a date, time and place for the fight.

17:29 Fred: when you come here.

17:30 Antonio: give me a date time and place

1731: Fred If the PhD don’t work out I’ll get you a job as a fluffer. I think you would do well since you spend half your life underneath asian men.

17:31 Antonio: date, time, and place?

17;31 Fred: by the way you have an open invitation to come to Hadian district in Beijing anytime to test your skills. (Here, Fred is referring to some martial artists he knows in Beijing. When he agreed to fight me in Beijing on September 7, 2013, he was supposed to fight me in the wrestling room at the wrestling school I was living in. Then he said he would only fight me if I first fought these two pro san da fighters in a no rules fight, in a park in Hadian district. Only then would he fight me. I was so desperate to fight him, I agreed. But then I thought better of it, and declined. It turned out, he wasn’t even in Beijing. So, the whole thing was a load of bull on his part.)


17:32 Antonio: Great now give me a date, time, and place to fight you.

17:34 Fred: At your mother’s house

17:35 Antonio: no, I mean a real date, time and place, so we can really fight. It seems you don’t actually want this fight. I have been chasing you for nearly two years but all you do is make gay jokes. Can you please fight me?

17:37 Then you come to Shenzhen call me then I’ll give ya an ass whooping understand?

17:37 no I will only come for our fight. So if you give me a time date and place then we can fight.

17:37 and I told you all this tome come to Shenzhen and fight me and you have done nothing because your simply pathetic

17:39 I agreed many times to come to Shenzhen but you backed out. So just give me a date, time, and place and then you can beat me, as you said. You agreed to fight me on June 13 in Shenzhen but then you pulled out.

17:41 when u gonna blow Tan again? I want a video.

1759 instead of your gay fantasies please give me a date, time, and place so we can fight.

17:59 Fred: your mother must be rolling over in her grave (sandwiched between to n_______s of course) crying about what a pathetic piece of shit you have become,

18:24 Antonio: date, time, and place for our fight. By the way, you have now agreed and backed out 15 times and made hundreds of gay references about wanting to watch or participate in gay sex.

18:26 Fred December 25, show time at the Apollo

18:26 Antonio: once again, a real date, time, and place, so we can actually fight. You don’t seem very good at arranging a fight.

18:27 Fred: and you seem pretty god at, ah, nothing.  So who was on top, you or tan?

18:32 Antonio: day time and place for our fight please.

18:32 Fred: by the way I meant to tell ya I was at your school about a month ago. Wish I saw you.

1834 Antonio: great, fight me, date time and place. I don’t believe you came here but if you did, why not call me to fight? A date time and place so the fight can really happen? (It later turned out he was in Shanghai during this entire exchange, but refused to come fight me again.)


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Psychological Analysis of Fred Schroeder the Coward of Shenzhen

In Uncategorized on June 7, 2014 at 4:00 am

Fred smack talk 8

As of March 7, 2015, Fred Schroeder, of New Jersey, USA, a pilot for an airlines in Shenzhen, China, has agreed to fight me and then backed out 23 times.

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I sent a slew of Fred Schroeder’s emails to a psychiatrist to get his take on this coward who backed out of a fight with me 14.5 times, but who has clearly watched many documentaries about me, watched my videos, and read my books and stories. Fred Schroeder has clearly followed me for a number of years, and seems to know a lot of minute details about me. This would all suggest to me that he was more than a fan. He is more like a stalker. He repeatedly talks about gay sex that he wants to have with me or my teammates, and often sends me detailed descriptions of how he raped my mother. Again and again, over a period of 14 months, he has said he could beat me easily in a fight, and blamed me for the fact that we haven’t fought. I have asked him for a fight thousands of times, and every time that he has accepted, he has backed out.

A psychiatrist’s take on Fred so far:

“He secretly admires you, wants to emulate you, and his way of doing it is by crushing you. But he knows he will lose in a real fight. So he’ll never fight you, only bait you, only make you mad, make you look like a fool.”

Now that I read about his sexual fantasies. He is always teasing you, sexually so he gets to mess with you, and mentally so he gets to fuck (mess) with you……………… So he teases you about “f—ing” you and “fighting” you. He does not have the courage to do either. He will not come to confront you personally because he can’t afford the money, and if he shows his face, he knows he will be beaten by you. You will have a great victory, while he will have a great loss. He will lose his pride, his health (get beaten up), and his money (plane ticket ). So rest assured, he will never dare to show up. What a filthy swine FS he is, insulting Mom, Jesus, your manhood, your language ability. These are just pathetic attempts to provoke you, to instigate and enrage you.

I commend you for winning arguments.Yes you deserved commendation for standing and defending yourself. But it is not worth defending. Would you fight every roadside dog that barks at you? Please consider turning down future instigations the way I did, fighting fire with water. His game, his aim, is to antagonize you and drive you nuts. Don’t fight in his terms. It is way beneath you. He lives in China , does not speak Chinese. What does he do for a living? Gay whoring?

FS mentions he never backed out of a fight, and accuses you of being jealous of him, brags about being a wine taster; something about being a pilot. That much I am just sifting and reiterating back.

It looks like he is bragging about what good things he does, and it seems that he IS stalking you, carefully reading what you have read and that is how he is able to belittle you about small details about your life from your writings which you have passed on, but for him, mean a great deal, and of which he is very jealous of.

Yes, you identified it correctly that he is projecting in a severe manner, and he is trying to compete with you. Are you jealous, NO. He is the one who is jealous and he is projecting that on you. The guy just admitted he is a wino, probably drives around vineyard to vineyard, DUI, drinking , driving, disappointed with his dull life, envying your illustrious life, wishing he could be half the man you are.

He admires you, wants to be like you. With the amount of jealousy and envy that he has, he could turn out to be dangerous since he has carefully studied all about you. Continuing to respond to his challenges only escalates the tension and conflict. I had been following your heated exchanges and was amused because it reminded me of the World Wrestling champs ranting at each other before or in between matches. Now that I see you asking for advice in a 4 pp. letter full of many details and instances of actual pain, it ceases to be amusing and I realize this is getting complicated.

Let me summarize and conclude. He secretly admires you, wants to emulate you, and his way of doing it is by crushing you. But he knows he will lose in a real fight. So he’ll never fight you, only bait you, only make you mad, make you look like a fool.

About the Feud

Fred Schroeder, a pilot for an airlines in Shenzhen, China has been telling the Brooklyn Monk, Antonio Graceffo that he can beat Antonio easily in a fight, since March, 2013. The first time the two were scheduled to fight was April, 2013, but Fred Schroeder, the coward of Shenzhen, backed out. Since then, Fred has agreed to fight 13 more times, but backed out. The last time the two had any contact was when Fred sent a text message to Antonio, saying that he would kick Antonio’s butt in June, 2014. Antonio has tried repeatedly to confirm if this was a legitimate offer to fight, but as of June 7, 2014, Fred has not confirmed.

Fred Schroeder Coward of Shenzhen and his only fan, Casca Mercenario

In Uncategorized on June 5, 2014 at 3:45 pm

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As of March 7, 2015, Fred Schroeder, of New Jersey, USA, a pilot for an airlines in Shenzhen, China, has agreed to fight Antonio Graceffo and then backed out 23 times.

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A guy in Malaysia, who hates me, named Casca Mercenario, thought Fred Schroeder, the cowardly pilot from Shenzhen, was actually going to fight me. So, Casca started writing to Fred, on Facebook, encouraging him to finally knock my block off. One of the many reasons Casca doesn’t like me is because I beat him in a gym fight. So, he decided I am a terrible fighter and wanted someone else to kick my butt.
This is all internet logic, by the way. It makes no sense to anyone who exists in the real world. If I am such a terrible fighter, why didn’t Casca just beat me himself? Or, why didn’t Fred fight me back in 2013, when he first said he could beat me easily?
At first, Casca was very supportive of Fred, telling Fred that, although he had never seen Fred train or fight, he knew for sure that Fred could beat me. Around this time, Fred sent me a message saying, “Many people wrote to me and want to see me kick your butt on March 13.” This was when Fred agreed to fight me on March 13th, 2014. Of course, he backed out, and the fight never happened. But he apparently used some alternative means of counting where “one” is equal to “many”, because, as far as I know, NO ONE ELSE was rooting for Fred to win , after he had backed out so many times and after he had posted gay pornography on my Facebook page and after he had said so many horrible things about raping my mother.
This is all internet logic, by the way. It makes no sense to anyone who exists in the real world. If I am such a terrible fighter, why didn’t Casca just beat me himself? Or, why didn’t Fred fight me back in 2013, when he first said he could beat me easily?
March 13 came and went, and Fred didn’t fight me. Fred agreed to fight me in a street fight on March 30th, but then pulled out. Then Casca tried to get him to fight me for April 11, another fight that Fred agreed to, but then pulled out. Each time Casca asked why Fred pulled out, Fred simply claimed that he didn’t. But this makes no sense, since Fred did agree to fight me, and he never fought me.
During the course of all of their exchanges Fred told Casca a number of lies which conflicted with lies he told me. For example, he told Casca on April 9, “I have way more access to training partners and the tools I need to fight this fucktard. It’s just a matter of time” I train at Shanghai sports university full time. I can’t imagine Fred has a better place to train in Shenzhen. We are number three in the country behind Xian and Beijing sports universities. And Fred doesn’t train full time.
April 9, he also told Casca “No I never backed out. No he never came to Shenzhen. If he would come here tomorrow I would fight the prick.” First off, he backed out 14.5 times and I have the email evidence to prove it. Two of the times he backed out my coach was involved in setting up the fight, so I also have witnesses. As for me going to Shenzhen, that was never part of the deal. But after March, 2014, I finally gave in and said I would fight him in Shenzhen if he could give me the name, address, phone number, date, and time of the venue. He didn’t. We missed two dates in Shenzhen simply because he refused to tell me where and when the fight would be held.
Eventually, even Casca, a guy who hates me, couldn’t get past the fact that Fred, the tough guy, had been ducking this fight for over a year and was obviously a frightened little girl. When Casca started pestering Fred about why he didn’t fight, Fred became rude to Casca.
Casca came back with “I guess you’re just chicken shit. You wasted my time. I thought you were a hero. But you are just as scared of Antonio as all those other guys.” (April 22nd, 9:57pm). Because Fred didn’t respond, Casca took it up a notch, “Man You shut up the minute I asked you about actually fighting him. You are a little faggot keyboard warrior. Pathetic piece of shit. You talked so big but you’re just scared.”
Fred’s final message to Casca, before blocking him on Facebook, on Friday 9:36pm
FRED: Casca, if I saw you right now I would break your neck off and stick it in your ass
You and that faggot antonio can go f–k each other in the ass until you die. Don’t contact me again you stupid f–k.”
And with that, Fred lost his only friend. Casca then emailed me a full transcript of their conversations.
I find it disturbing that Fred so frequently talks about gay sex acts that he wants to commit on me or wants my friends to commit on him or that he wishes we would commit on each other. If I made a list of all of the people I have ever known, it would most likely be in the thousands. And yet, NONE of them ever said all of these negative, horrible, disturbing gay sex things.
Also, if you read between the lines, isn’t he challenging Casca to a fight? And if so, why did he block Casca? How will that fight ever happen now?
Ah, Fred, would that this were over. But it will go on like this for the rest of your life.
To date, not sure if the funniest thing he ever said to me was “I’ll fight you when I’m ready” or “You f—ed with the wrong guy, Antonio
As of this writing, June 5, 2014, Fred has backed out 14.5 times.

The full Casca exchanges
Fred agreed to fight me on Friday March 21, in Shanghai, so I added him back on facebook. He immediately posted gay pornography on my page. So I blocked him. Then, my friend C made friends with him on facebook and is pumping him up, encouraging him to fight me.
Casca: Hey, are you going to fight that blowhard Antonio in March. They are organizing a fight in Shanghai and I bet a lot of people would love to see you kick his ass. His the info
The Battle of Shanghai MMA, BJJ, and Muay Thai smoker fight, Thursday evening, March 13, at 7 PM, at Fighters Unite Shanghai, contact Silas Maynard on Facebook
Monday 10:06pm
Fred: Hi Cascaa, sorry this went to my other messages folder. Your exactly right, blowhard is an understatement. Have you ever met him? Yes we will fight, i have offered him MANY times to come to shenzhen. So it looks like im gonna have to get to SHanghai eventually. He never stops talking shit, never!
Tuesday 8:06am
Casca: Wow he is a jerk. why didnt you guys fight on March 13? I bet he just stayed in his house that night.
Tuesday 3:53pm
Fred: I was in use until the 6th (My note fred returned to china on march 6th, that doesn’t explain why he didn’t fight me on the 13th or at any time in the previous year)
Fred: Have u ever actually met him?
Tuesday 7:24pm
Casca: Yes, i have been in the gym with him. he is a huge loudmouth. he doesnt like to train he just comes in and spars. usually he will spar like 5 or 6 guys in a row without stopping. all the coaches like that but i think hee is a jerk
Tuesday 10:59pm
Fred: Where are you now? In china? Yes he has got to be one of the most arrogant pricks I have met. He is beyond self centered and loves to start shit between people. I bet the only friends he really had are his Facebook fans
2 hours ago
Casca: I knew him in Johor bahru. he is such an asshole he walked in our gym and just because he could beat the shit out of everyone the coach made him the assistant trainer then he kept fight and winning and no one wanted to fight him but i wanted to see him get KOd About fans, he has a lot in malaysia, everyone knows him some people hate him but most people are so stupid and desperate they support him
Fred: So there wasn’t one guy who could beat him at your gym? I’m not very impressed with him. But he does seem strong and can take some punishment but besides that it seems like when he charges in at people that get nervous and kind of just react.
Casca: He thinks because he speaks so many languages like he is some god
Fred: I actually never met him. And he and I met online years ago. He asked me for a place to stay as we was thinking of coming to Shenzhen. I even let him use my VPN for free for months ( not a big deal) but he just shits all over people and all he cares about is his self image
Fred: He is not very tall but looks stocky
Casca: he is shortbut he is built like a bull and even i saw one professional karate guy kick him right in the face and he just took the guy down and beat the shit out of him but then he always talks how strong he is
Casca: Kim Lee Tan could probably beat him, but they were training partners. kim had about 30 fights then he retired and is now a referee for One Fc
Fred: Did you spar with Antonio?
Casca: yeah, he kept throwing me down and laughing at me he didnt even punch or anything, just kept throwing me please kick his ass just because he can wrestle, he thinks he can walk aroundd saying he speak 20 languages or some shit.
Fred: Lmfao
Fred: What a prick
Casca: i want to see him get his ass kicked but he just takes the guys down yeah he is a prick but unfortunately his wrestling is really good
Fred: Maybe so, but that doesn’t mean he also can’t be taken down (ME, so his strategy is to try and take me down? What a terrible idea.)
Fred: And while his wrestling is good I don’t see his submissions as anything good
Fred: When he closed the distance and has someone in the clinch I never seen anyone using their shoulder or elbows. Antonio’s dominant from the clinch. That’s about it
Casca: yeah he doesnt usually win by submissionyeah trueonly clincch is good
Fred: I bet there are many people that talk behind his back
Fred: Because they really don’t like him
Casca: sure lots of people hate him because he talks about education and phd and languages who the fuck does he thing he is
Fred: Yea, like he is a walking encyclopedia. It’s one thing to be smart and humble, it’s another to be smart and be a jackass like him
Fred: I called him on the phone today. I’m trying to set something up
(Fred called me at this point and asked me to fight him Friday in Shenzhen. Periodically, after backing out of a fight with me, he then says, “Why do we have to fight in your gym and your ring? So, I agree we can fight in Shenzhen if he can arrange a ring, and he never can. This time, he claims there is a ring, but he wont give me the name, address, phone number or contact person for the gym so I can verify that he actually set anything up. In the end, he won’t set it up. So, I won’t fly to Shenzhen, and he will claim I backed out. But funny having that conversation with him on the phone, while having this Facebook chat with him)
Casca: good when are you going to fight him?
Fred: I hope by the summer (Antonio note, when he called me it was fight that week, on Friday, not in summer. He never mentioned summer)
Casca: wow cool and you are right his submissions are bad all you have to do is take HIM down, get on top, control him and you can submit him
Fred: I hope to rock him with elbows and kick the hell out of his knees
Casca: yeah goodhe has bad knees
Fred: I heard that he does
Casca: i wonder why no one did that before? (Antonio note, laughing so hard I can barely type)
Fred: Don’t know
Casca: the only thing, you gotta kick quick
Casca: he always ties those guys up fast
Fred: He comes straight forward
Casca: yup predictable
Fred: Very predictable
Casca: yeah always the same moves sounds like you got his number, why didnt you fight him last year?
Fred: Wasn’t ready to be honest
Casca: oh ok but a bunch of times you guys said on his page that you were fighting
Fred: He has this way of getting under my skin and trying to force me to do things
Casca: yeah he is a complete asshole i dont got a better word, asshole
Fred: And then I just wind up getting pissed off because he is such an asshole
Fred: Lol
Casca: but if you were pissed why not kick his assi really want to see itcan you make a video?
Fred: Then what he will do is completely turn things around
Fred: I wanted to badly. But I know it’s foolish to fight someone when there is any doubt you can lose
Fred: Sure I will
Casca: cool but you know how to beat him sounds like a great plan kick that knee right out from under him fuck he might never fight again
Fred: Lol
Casc:a you’d like that
Fred: Let’s see how it goes
Casca: i know i would
Casca: I would just like to shut him the hell up
Casca i knew when i saw you on his page you were no pussyyou dont take his shitand you said you knew how to beat a wrestlerso i was like, good i’ll bet on that guy
Fred: Thanks. Yes I don’t. Everyone else seems to but I won’t
Casca: yeah they all kiss his ass
Fred: One of my best friends is a two time NCAA years ago
Fred: who cares how many fights he won
Fred I’m not stupid
Casca: wow you know a NCAA wrestlershit you must be good
Fred I’m good at staying on my feet. He outweighs me by 10 or 8 kilo. Not much. I am 7 years younger. And tons more faster then him (Me more faster? Also two seconds ago he said he was going to take me down.)
Casca: and antonio aint no NCAA
Casca: you know he’s not even the best one on his university wrestling team
Fred: Lol
Casca: he talked about it on facebook some of those college wrestlers are better than him so its not like he’s a champion
Fred: And just so you know, I have nothing against anyone who is gay. But when he pissed me off I would always tell him what a faggot he is because I never seen him with a woman.
Fred: Plus he calls himself a monk
Casca: good ffor yo
Casca: He ain’t monk
Casca: yeah and that language shit he talks is a lie
Fred: Probably
Casca: yeah his mandarine is like perfectbut he cant speak cantonese or haka
Fred: Lol
Cascaa: what a fuckin loser spanish and italain are a no brainer, dudes parents come from italy or some crap so whats the big deal?
Fred: Lol
Fred: Don’t know
Fred I gotta goto a company meeting now. Catch up later and good talking to you
(Antonio note: March 21: Dance, my puppets, dance. My fake Facebook profile, Cascaa, told Fred “Antonio is so full of shit. He ain’t no linguist. Sure his Mandarin is nearly perfect, but he doesn’t speak any Cantonese or even Haka.” Today, I went on youtuube and a brand new youtube account had commented on my Chinese presentation video “How about Cantonese or even Hakka?” It’s such a random thing to post on my video, I have to believe it’s Fred. Most people have never even heard of Haka. I wonder what else I can make him do? His fake youtube account is Frikandel Kroket1 )
Casca: That asshole must have brain damage. He is telling everyone you agreed to fight him today but you backed out. I know that isn’t true.
Fred: Sorry fb is banned in china and I don’t always get on. He must have emailed me like 6 times today what a fkin pain in the ass. I told him I was gonna to the gym today to see about getting the ring set up for us since this pussy don’t wanna fight on the street
Casca: Ok so did you set up the fight? when is it
Casca: 23 march
Casca: He’s on facebook saying you backed out of the fight 9 times and you said terrible things about his mom. he is such a didnt do that, did you?
Fred: Sorry I’m half asleep. No I didn’t back out of a fight.
Monday 6:06pm
Casca: Oh, so you guys never had a date to fight? because he had a list of dates that you were supposed to fight but I checked the video, he was fighting someone else.anyway, are you going to fight him in April? That would be cool.
7 hours ago
Casca: Antonio just said you agreed to fight him in April if he gave you head. Are you fighting him in April?
Fred: Hi. Sorry as fb is blocked in china and I’m very busy these days. I am going Friday to check out a ring that is here in sz. As I told him many times this fight will most likely happen over the summer. He is such a bullshitter it’s unbelievable
18 minutes ago
Casca: ok i hought something like thathe said you agreed to fight him like 9 times and quit. the asshole.just curious, why dont you just knock his ass out at fight night in april?
Chat Conversation End
(MY note: I had been planning all along to feed into Fred’s delusions and his adolescent fantasies by confirming everything I knew he already believed in. In a conversation with Antonio, Fred said that he believed Taekwondo guys were better fighters than san da guys. Which is preposterous since taekwondo has no punching, no combinations, no low kicks, no grappling, no throwing, and they don’t fight for money. anyway, in a separate conversation he told Cascaa that he thought Antonio had a bad knee and all he had to do was kick it once and it would explode. So, Cascaa just sent Fred an email saying that a Taekwondo guy kicked Antonio’s knee and it exploded. And now is Fred’s chance to fight Antonio. The strategy may backfire though. Fred allegedly believed he could beat Antonio this whole time and yet didn’t fight him. So, maybe even if he thought Antonio was crippled he still wouldn’t agree to fight.)
March 31, 2014
Casca: Dude!!! Guess who just got his ass kicked by some taekwando guy at the university and probably has to have knee surgery!
Fred: ??
Fred: Antonio
6 minutes ago
Casca: Yes, this is your cance man. fight himhis knee is fuckedmy cousin told me he cant even walk.that smartass finally got what was coming to himand now you can shut him up the rest of the way.
Fred: How did this happen
Casca: my cousin goes to that sports kindergarten antonio brags about he said antonio was shooting off his mouth about what a great fighter he was and how other martial arts sucked
Fred: Today?
Casca: yeah
Fred: So they fought ?
Casca: yeah a tKD team member got sick of antonios crap and they fought and he kicked antonios knee once
Fred: What kind of fight?
Casca: and fatasss had to be carried outi dont know i wasnt there just my cousin told me but i guess not mma or antonio would have taken him down dude opened his mouth one too many
Fred: Lmfao
Fred: Would love to see pics
Casca: i dont know if there are anybut he will need surgery and allso this is your chancefight the sonofabitch
Fred: It is that bad?
Casca: yeah his knee explodeddude it was a taekwando guythey are the best kickers
Fred: I’m surprised he didn’t write about it on fb
Casca: and antonio is like 67 years old and has bad kneeshe probably will keep it secretbecause he is so arroganthe’s not gooing to admit something like that
Fred: Dude had a very long day to do very bad weather here in Shenzhen. Gotta get some sleep. I will be in touch this week
Casca: ok but this is your shot manshut that fucker up forever
Chat Conversation End
Seen 8:41pm
Fred: With or without his knee fucked up doesn’t make a diff in the long run. I just want the chance to have a fair fight with him
Casca: yeah of course you could always beat him but this is even better for you
yeah of course you could always beat him but this is even better for you
(Fred emailed Antonio to confirm the TKD incident. This is where I screwed up a bit in my planning. Antonio, of course, had to deny that the incident happened. But meanwhile, I needed to make the incident true, so Fred would believe I was injured and fight me. I could kill Casca for putting me in this position. Fred then sent Antonio’s email response to Casca.)
Fred: From Antonio
No idea what you are talking about. I sparred eight rounds of san da today. by the way, did you fill out your form to fight me on April 11?
April 1st, 9:05am
Casca: he doesnt want to admit he got his ass kicked you know anyone could just beat his ass. you said ” I just want the chance to have a fair fight with him” so why did you turn down all of the times he tried to fight you for a year?

FRED: Casca. 1. He is the one that challenged me. I offered him many times to come to Shenzhen. I even offered to pay that poor bastards ticket. 2. I have a full time job. I don’t have always the time off to do the things I want. 3. I told him numerous times let’s settle this like men, but he wanted it in a gym, in shanghai, on his terms but the motherfucker is the one who ran his mouth and challenged me. 4. Don’t think for one second that because I don’t post things here on Facebook that I’m sitting here doing nothing. I have way more access to training partners and the tools I need to fight this fucktard. It’s just a matter of time
April 1st, 10:50pm
Casca: so you agreed to fight him several times but then you didnt fight him i still dont understand why you did that now he is posting about april 11are you going to fight him then?it sounds like you are ready.
April 2nd, 10:30pm
Casca: are you going to fight him on the 11th or do you need to wait more than a year?
Your training is better than his? Cool. where do you train?
April 4th, 8:05am
Fred: I asked meathead about you and this was his response
A jealous jerk I knew in johor bahru. he didnt like me, but he couldnt beat me physically, so he talks crap about me, similarly to the way you call me insulting names and talk about raping my mother because you can’t beat me in a fight
Casca: that guy is an ass. i can beta him. so can you. by the way, where do you train? Are you going to fight him on the 11th? I am dying to see someone kick his ass, and anyone could.
April 7th, 9:48am
Casca: Are you going to fight Antonio on April 11? WOuld love to see you finally shut him up.
April 8th, 8:21pm
Casca: Fred, tell me the truth. are you scared of Antonio? You have backed out so many times. and now it looks like you won’t fight him on April 11. Why?
Fred: Casca, do me a favour. I realize we both cannot stand this fuck. And yes I will fight him. However I have a full time job, lived in another city, and asked him many times to come since he challenge me. So pls stop asking me. When it happens it happens
April 9th, 9:49pm
Casca: But why did you back out so many times? on your facebook you went on holiday and you had time to go many places You mean in a whole year you never had a day off? also, why did you agree to fight him and back out? Grom 2
Fred: how many times do I need to explain this to you. No I never backed out. No he never came to Shenzhen. If he would come here tomorrow I would fight the prick. So please stop asking me the same questions
Casca: But you agreed to fight him last year I saw even the gym was making the poster and you agreed to fight him a couple more times Dont you remember? He got his stupid coach involved and you posted on your page you were fighting him last april but he fought theat tomato can Aj instead
April 10th, 9:37am
Casca: That asshole posted, saying you backed out 12 times. But I know i8t couldn’t have been more than 2 or 3 times, 4 at the max. so you should break his jaw.
Fred: Patience. He can write whatever he wants. He is scared to come to Shenzhen
April 10th, 11:08pm
Casca: but why did you agree to fight him so many times and back out?It doesnt really seem like you want to fight him.
April 12th, 10:28pm
You’ve been really quiet. I said, it doesn’t seem like you want to fight him because he offered for a year and you backed out every single you have a response for that?
April 14th, 9:46pm
Casca: It just seems you are scared of Antonio because you turned down all his offers to fight for a year and then you backed out a bunch of times after agreeing to fight. Do you have any kind of response?
April 17th, 10:04pm
Casca: If you wanted to fight him so bad why did you back out so many times and wait a whole year?
April 22nd, 9:57pm
Casca: I guess your just chicken shit. You wasted my time. I thought you were a hero. but you are just as scared of Antonio as all those other guys.
Friday 9:36pm
Casca: Man You shut up the minute I asked you about actually fighting him.You are a little faggot keyboard warrior.pathetic piece of talked so big but you’re just scared.
Fred responded:
Cascaa, if I saw you right now I would break your neck off and stick it in your ass
You and that faggot antonio can go fuck each other in the ass until you die
Don’t contact me again you stupid fuck
Chat Conversation End
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